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Soft charges ‘Fall off’ ???
I was billed six times on my debit card for one flight. The total almost caused an overdraft on my account. The charges are “pending” so I can’t use my account until they clear or are dropped as errors. Orbitz service center called these !%##% screwups “Soft charges”. They said it’s not a problem, they will just fall off after 7-10 days. MY bank account is technicaly empty until this is resolved…They billed me $1322.95 for a $646.69 flight!
See an Email transcript of this mess:
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From : OrbitzTLCService OrbitzTLCService@orbitz.com>
Sent : Saturday, June 9, 2007 12:00 AM
To :
Subject : Re: Credit Cards and Billing (KMM453126I86L0KM)
——————————————————————————–
Dear Orbitz Customer,
Thank you for contacting Orbitz.
We sincerely apologize for any inconveniences caused.
In reviewing our reservation system, we show that you have a reservation
titled ‘Juneau 7/2/07′.
With regards to your query, please note that for the above reservation,
you were charged as follows:
Airfare, (Adult) $639.70
Service fee $6.99
———-
Total trip cost $646.69 USD
———-
For your reference, please note that a soft charge is a temporary
authorization that will automatically drop off your account within seven
days, if not sooner. A soft charge is when Orbitz asks for funds from a
credit card / debit card company but does not actually charge the card.
By doing this the funds are taken out of the available credit on the
card but not included in the balance that you need to pay to your credit
card / debit card company.
Soft charges ‘Fall off’ or are added back to the available credit after
7 - 10 days. For further information, please call your credit card
company.
We value you as a customer and look forward to serving you again in the
future.
Sincerely,
Sana
OrbitzTLC
www.Orbitz.com
Orbitz - The faster, easier way to find the trip you want.
Original Message Follows:
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I DID contact Orbitz Customer Service at 888-656-4546 twice and my bank
twice. IF YOU READ MY EMAIL you would know that. Your Orbitz Customer
Service said they could do NOTHING! NO SERVICE!!! The bank requires
that
Orbitz Customer Service call them at 1-866-477-5518. PLEASE reread my
first
email more carefully!
>From: OrbitzTLCService OrbitzTLCService@orbitz.com>
>To:
>Subject: Re: Credit Cards and Billing (KMM451285I86L0KM)
>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 19:15:00 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Dear Orbitz Customer,
>
>Thank you for contacting Orbitz.
>
>We are unable to solve this issue via e-mail.
>
>For assistance with regards to your issue, please contact Orbitz
>Customer Service at 888-656-4546 or internationally at 312-416-0018.
Our
>representative will be glad to assist you.
>
>We value you as a customer and look forward to serving you again in the
>future.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Tim
>OrbitzTLC
>www.Orbitz.com
>
>Orbitz - The faster, easier way to find the trip you want.
>
>Original Message Follows:
>————————
>I bought one ticket to Alaska on 06/07/07:
>Airline ticket number(s):
>
>Total airfare: $639.70 (including taxes)
>Service fee: $6.99
>Total trip cost: $646.69 USD
>
>My credit card was billed for six charges totaling $1322.95
>These charges are “pending” and not final but my account is almost
>empty! I have made many calls to my bank and to your service center
>tryng to get this resolved. Your service center said they can’t call
>my bank and my bank said they can’t call you. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE FIX
>THIS SOON!!! TODAY
>
>
12 Responses to “Soft charges ‘Fall off’ ???”
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November 27, 2007 at 5:14 am
I have used Orbitz, hotwire, Expedia and Travelocity, all have their pro’s and con’s.
I spotted a site called Anyfares.com, find air tickets so cheap that my savings were about 35% cheaper than Orbitz, hotwire, Expedia and Travelocity. Flights internationally such as Europe in particular that are great and South American, China and middle East countries, they have expcellent rates. Demastic though there are some what competitive where I used either Hotwire or the airlines direct from their web sites.
What I really like about Anyfares.com is they sell tickets on US dollars in foreign countries and all their tickets are e-tickets so if you are in France and need a fight to St.Petersburg Russia or London or Franskfurt, they sell everything in US dollars and you have your tickets emailed in 10 minutes so you can just travel just like that. Orbitz, Expedia and Travelocity, they sell their tickets if you are out of the US, they will charged you the currency in that country if you want to fly from there to somewhere else. So if I was in France for example and I want to fly to London, Frankfurt or anywhere, they will charged me in Euros or Pound Notes (it is like charging you double when the US dollar is so weak) when if you are an American and want to save, you can’t save because Orbitz, Expedia, Travelocity will charged the currency if you are outside the United States but with Anyfares.com, they don’t. Euro’s, Swiss Marks, British Pounds, Russian Rubles and etc, they currencies are high to the US dollar and if you are an American, you are stuck if you have to meet those currencies if you have only US dollars.
So consider if you have a money budget and you can’t afford the high currencies, try http://www.anyfares.com
Jim
April 8, 2008 at 9:57 am
That’s how debit card transactions work, my friend. I’m not defending Orbitz at all, and I have no affiliation to them. I’m not saying they never rip people off, but in your case, it is your fault for not understanding how a debit card works. It’s not just Orbitz that do these “soft charges”, but pretty much ANYWHERE that takes a debit card, although most of the time(90% or so) you don’t notice that this happened, either because it’s resolved fairly quick, or because the amount put “on hold” is close to the cost used on the debit card.
You can google how a debit card actually works, and this will clear up your confusion on the subject.
Everyone assumes check card/debit cards are like credit cards, and that they process immediately. This is not the case, as a debit/check card work more like a check.
Companies just check to see if you have funds available in your account, and authorize your card based on whether you do or not, then they put X amount of dollars on hold, to insure that they get their money after the process clears (7 - 10 days) This is why it seems like an immediate transaction. If they didn’t do this, it would take you a lot longer to purchase some things, as the card would just be treated like a check.
April 8, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Ty Dub …WTF?
They billed me $1322.95 for a $646.69 flight! They did drop the OVERCHARGE after a few days…but I could not use my account until then. Orbitz had maxed out my account
Debit cards are just like credit cards! They are processed immediately, within seconds! I have ten years worth of recepts to show me they are.
Orbitz is the ONE that was totaly screwed up.
July 2, 2008 at 1:37 am
Orbitz really screwed me up. My fiance booked our honeymoon and I tried to change a flight–YEAH RIGHT!
Their OrbitzTLC team, which could only stand for Orbitz Total Load of CRAP, received and responded to my emails without reading them, just as they did to you. I even put numbers by my questions and they said I didn’t ask them any.
The larger issue was that they would refund the ticket, less change fees, but I had to book and fly 2 weeks before I had booked the original tickets for–something that no one in their right mind would do.
They messed up my honeymoon. If Orbitz had a face, I’d mess it up.
Bottom line, I’m going to the BBB with this one.
a.
March 24, 2009 at 9:12 pm
I had the same issue! They charged me 7 times! I was able to request a couple vouchers for the inconvenience, however, now that I go to use them on another flight and guess what?!?!? Well, I have the same issue again with probelsm booking the flight. Orbitz.com really sucks when using debit cards for booking flights…horrendous. They need to hire some competent application developers and staff support because they appear clueless. http://kristian-hermansen.blogspot.com
March 4, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Orbitz has a big green banner over “Flights” that clearly states “NO FEES”. Apparently that only means in certain cases. I was billed $6.99 for a flight and told that they get complaints about that all the time, by Laura at Orbitz. She said the No Fee policy does not count for international, multi-airline, delta, or American airlines. What deception! These people suck; use a different site, there are plenty to choose from because these people don’t deserve our business.
March 4, 2010 at 8:42 pm
President and CEO of Orbitz is Barney Harford
barney.harford@orbitz.com. I’m sure he’d love to hear from everyone.
November 30, 2010 at 12:27 am
I’ve been charged twice for air ticktet bought via Orbitz and now they owe my 2500 bucks.
I’ll never use this damn company again.
Good idea to drop a few line to CEO.
December 10, 2010 at 10:44 pm
>Debit cards are just like credit cards! They are processed immediately, within seconds! I have ten years worth of recepts to show me they are.
And I have ten years of experience working as a merchant dealing daily with credit card holds and authorizations. You’re wrong.
Actually, you’re right. Debit cards are just like credit cards. But your second part is wrong: neither debit cards NOR credit cards are processed immediately.
See these posts for more info on how the system works:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/13492863-post36.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/13508370-post44.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12145333-post10.html
December 11, 2010 at 12:06 am
I started this post to warn people about Orbitz Billing policy…
I still believe they were wrong to over bill me…I so no justification for this. No company has ever done this to me before or since. I will never use Orbitz again!
I now work in retail and see people checking there bank balance before and after sales. Using there phones to do online banking while shopping. A pending charge reduces your available balance. Why would any company have a pending charge that’s twice the actual charge…?
I’ve never seen any other company do this. I think is very wrong. I would never do this to my customers.
I think Orbitz LIES
March 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm
OP is a loozer and fails at math. 1322.95 is not 6 X 646.69. its no wonder your account was in overdraft, you cant add. Also, who only keeps 1300 in their account? ever heard of a financial buffer?